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  1. #1
    Betico filial Avatar de joaquin17ireland
    Fecha de ingreso
    16 ene, 06
    Mensajes
    151

    Predeterminado It's Not A Surprise That We've Reached This Point

    I never thought I’d feel this low, this empty. As a football fan, I've felt the pain of losing a Champions League final, of being humiliated by bitter rivals, of last minutes losses, and of the sale of great players, but this is something else. There's a desperation to the feeling. Sitting around waiting for the league table to change, for something to change. Nothing changes and Real Betis have sunk into Segunda, and it's been coming. Four years of fighting relegation has finally taken its toll.

    Edit: I was hoping this would've been somewhat therapeutic, but it wasn't, but bear with me.

    Why did it go wrong?
    • Lack of investment in training facilities.
    • Segregation of nationalities.
    • Offering six year deals to the worst players on the books (Juanlu), not offering any deals at all to the best players (Edú).
    • Ostracising players from training.
    • Preparing for a campaign by playing friendlies against teams you've never heard of.
    • Pre-season training in weather that leaves you spending one third of the time drinking water, another third rest, when all the time you should be training. Too cheap to send them to a training camp somewhere more bearable in Europe.
    • Having 32 players on the books when 22 (+ maybe three B team players) would suffice.
    • Five managers in three years of football, two being random B team promotions.
    • Employing a puppet president.
    • Pretending to have buyers for the club.
    • Continuous investment in attack and wing-backs, when the glaring weaknesses for five years have been in the centre of midfield and the centre of defence. The question will be asked, how did a team with Betis' quality get relegated? Well, you can have whatever attackers you want in a side, but when you're essentially void of a midfield and defence, then you will not win much. It's not possible.
    • Pumping profits from Betis into your foreign companies. Surely it's the other way around that sounds better?
    • Players who just didn't give a fuck.
    • Lopera.
    • Lopera.
    • Lopera.

    It feels like an intentional sabotage. I mean, you couldn’t have planned it any better.

    Manager:

    First thing’s first. Nogues will not have his contract renewed now that he has relegated the club, and the only way to bring some optimism to the situation is by handing Lorenzo Serra Ferrer a four-year contract, giving him two years to bring Betis back into La Liga.

    Squad:

    GK: Ricardo, Casto
    DR: Nelson, Damia, Ilic
    DC: Juanito, Nano, Rivas
    DC: Melli, Lima
    DL: Monzon, Vega, Oscar Lopez
    DMC: Aurelio, Juande, Canas
    MC: Capi, Arzu, Rivera
    AMR: Edú, Juanma, Odonkor
    AMC: Sergio Garcia, Emana
    AML: Gonzalez, Caffa, Xisco, Juanlu, Segura
    FW: Oliveira, Pavone, Dani

    That's a list of every player currently on our books. Had we avoided relegation, we also could have officially confirmed the capture of the following players on free-transfers: Goitia (Malaga), Bruno (Almeria), Iriney (Almeria), and Haggui (Leverkusen). They are options no more. (Both Almeria men having just come out to say so.)

    Steps to take:
    1. Beg Ricardo Oliveira and Sergio Garcia to stay. It won't work, but start from there.
    2. Remove Juanito, Rivera, and Edú as they move from the club on free-transfers
    3. Remove Monzon as his loan deal is up and we won't be able to shell out money for him now.
    4. Remove Ricardo, Nelson, Aurelio, Sergio Garcia, Emana, and Gonzalez. They are international quality, and won't hang around.
    5. While Oliveira did stay with Zaragoza for half a season, there's no doubt he won't want to go back to Segunda. Remove.
    6. Pavone, Xisco, Odonkor, Ilic, and Arzu have all asked to leave already during the season. Bye.
    7. Oscar Lopez and Nano aren't even good enough for Segunda. Bye.
    8. Bring back Caffa and Dani from their loan deals and use them. Possibly re-register the likes of Juanlu as backup.
    9. A bit of a reshuffle.
    10. Christ, this is depressing. Anyway, moving on. Bring in the following players from the B/youth side: Adrian, Isidoro, Alex Ortiz, Toni, Israel, and Rodri. All who have played in La Liga and Copa del Rey in the past few years.
    11. Sign the very best the Madrid and Barcelona B teams have to offer, as well as one goalscorer. We need goals to get back into La Liga. Goals, goals, goals. There's no reason to believe we can't get maybe €60-70 million from selling players, so we do need to invest some of that money.

    CASTO/Adrian

    DAMIA/Isidoro - MELLI/Alex Ortiz - LIMA/Rivas - VEGA/Toni

    CANAS/Signing - JUANDE/Signing

    JUANMA/Israel - CAPI/Rodri - CAFFA/Juanlu

    SIGNING/Segura/Dani

    Reasons to be (foolishly) optimistic:
    1. We could win a title next season. That’d be fucking cool.
    2. It allows us to start at 0. To create a new ethos and direction for the club.
    3. It may just give this club the reality check it has needed for such a long time.
    4. No derby with Sevilla next year, but there is one with Cádiz. Much more beautiful and colourful. (Scraping the bottom of the barrel here.)
    5. This might just have been one step too far for Lopera. He may not get away with this one. LOPERA, VETE YA!
    6. It'll give players from our B and youth teams a chance to step up to the plate. Time unearth a gem or two?



    We’ll be back, and I can’t wait to see you guys when we get there. So, while I wipe away a tear from my cheek, as the last few hours have been so incredibly depressing, I ask you; join me, as we go on a discovery of Segunda, conquer the beast, and come right back up for more La Liga fun.

    Now, more than ever: Viva er Beti manque pierda!
    Última edición por joaquin17ireland; 01/06/2009 a las 10:14

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  3. #2
    Bético histórico Avatar de tarteso
    Fecha de ingreso
    09 jun, 07
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    3.488

    Predeterminado Respuesta: It's Not A Surprise That We've Reached This Point

    no, it's not a surprise ... but it's a fucking disgrace.

    your planning is pretty realistic but i will try to see it more optimistic and i would start the other way around by building from scratch and start from zero... here it goes.


    1. pretend like there is no one of these fucking losers left.

    2. build the offense, yes the offense. as you say.. we need goals, goals, goals to go back to where we belong. therefore, it is absolutely MANDATORY that we keep oliveira, sergio garcía and mark gonzález and build a team around them. if we can't keep at least 2 of these players we're seriously fucked.

    3. build a solid base with the likes of goitia, melli, vega, juande, capi, juanma, caffa and lima. except for vega, i don't see any of these guys leave the club and they could be useful.

    4. promote B team players adrián, isidoro, toni, alex ortíz, cañas, rodri and israel. all andalusians who feel the club and want to prove something.

    5. see what we have so far and sign new players accordingly. in my opinion this would be

    a right back
    a center back
    two midfielders
    a forward


    ..................oliveira..................
    ...................XXXX...................

    gonzalez......s.garcia........juanma
    ..caffa...........capi............israel..
    ....................rodri....................

    ...........cañas.......juande...........
    ...........XXXX........XXXX............

    ..vega.....XXXX....melli......XXXXX.
    ..toni.......ortíz.....lima.......isidoro.

    ...................goitia....................
    ...................adrián...................

  4. #3
    Novato Avatar de angle_fbi
    Fecha de ingreso
    17 sep, 06
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    Predeterminado Respuesta: It's Not A Surprise That We've Reached This Point

    even me

    i am not surprise about what happened


    because we have players play for money not for the club such as:


    emana
    mark
    garcia
    olivera


    nobody deserve to ware betis shirt..

    in the past we had worst players like : luis fernandz .. lembo.. dani

    but at least they play for the club

    i hope the club will not any of our players

    because they are the one who let us be in the 2nd division and its there responsibilities to return the team to the 1st division..

  5. #4
    En pruebas
    Fecha de ingreso
    16 sep, 09
    Mensajes
    4

    Predeterminado Respuesta: It's Not A Surprise That We've Reached This Point

    Looking back, I am pleased to see that some of the players who appear to play for money instead of the shirt have left the club. 3-0 at the weekend gives me hope that we can get promoted with the squad that we have. I do have concerns about Odonkor's attitude though.

    Greetings to all Betico's from England!

    Cita Iniciado por angle_fbi Ver mensaje
    even me

    i am not surprise about what happened


    because we have players play for money not for the club such as:


    emana
    mark
    garcia
    olivera


    nobody deserve to ware betis shirt..

    in the past we had worst players like : luis fernandz .. lembo.. dani

    but at least they play for the club

    i hope the club will not any of our players

    because they are the one who let us be in the 2nd division and its there responsibilities to return the team to the 1st division..

  6. #5
    Betico filial Avatar de Verdiblanco de Holanda
    Fecha de ingreso
    07 sep, 08
    Ubicación
    Maastricht
    Mensajes
    299

    Predeterminado Respuesta: It's Not A Surprise That We've Reached This Point

    Welcome on board mate!

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